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I'm not expecting specific information, but my wife and I both are very interested in iboga to get off suboxone. Unfortunately we don't have the cash to go down to Mexico and were wondering if there are any underground treatment places and how one may go about finding them?
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Re: underground iboga in US
Fri, September 4, 2009 - 8:43 AMI have no clue of under-ground Iboga in the US' Iboga is Schedule 1' hence getting it in america is a big problem'
Also'
I would suggest you get off Subutex and go short acting for 4 weeks before partaking of Iboga'
then you shall no suffer at all'
Subutex detox takes 4 weeks' the same as method'one'
Heroin and short acting is over inside 24-72 hours' you shall feel very tired for a couple of days afterwards an that is it!
All the Best
Nobu Nganga + -
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Re: underground iboga in US
Fri, September 4, 2009 - 7:18 PMUse kratom extracts to get of suboxone. I know first hand that you can get off 16 mg of subs with a kratom extract with very little problems.
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Re: underground iboga in US
Wed, September 9, 2009 - 10:51 AMI've considered kratom. I'm only on 1mg of sub per day so I shouldn't have too many problems with it. Aren't the extracts alot more expensive? Wouldn't the leaves do the trick just the same? -
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Re: underground iboga in US
Wed, September 9, 2009 - 11:33 AMI've never done kratom (or any other opiate for that matter), but there is a great kratom forum where you may be able to find more information. Some members use kratom to get off stronger opiates.
thekratomforum.com/
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Re: underground iboga in US
Fri, September 11, 2009 - 1:38 PMIf you are only on 1mg of sub you can easily use plain kratom leaf ( a high quality type). -
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Re: underground iboga in US
Mon, October 12, 2009 - 11:20 PM
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Re: underground iboga in US
Thu, November 12, 2009 - 5:09 AMif you are on one millagram just man up and kick bro ,shit you dont need any replacement therapy for that ,ask your docter for a detox cocktail of klonadine and valium ,you ill be fine in a week . I am on 130 millagrams of methadone and I have kicked cold turky several times trust me 1 millagram ! dude just man up and kick ,you must be joking bout your dose,I hve never seen someone seek help for I millagram,t is comparable to niotine withrawels at that dose ! -
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Re: underground iboga in US
Thu, November 12, 2009 - 8:20 AMYou are talking rubbish Silver'
You drop 1mg of Subutex you shall feel like shit for four weeks' the same if you dropped 7-10mg methadone all at once'
The subutex withdrawal is softer than meth' but it still sucks' very long and drawn out'
Why are you on 130mg of methadone ?
Klonadine is crap' Valium is ADDICTIVE'
1 mg subutex comparable to nicotine' even more bravado shit from a methadone head'
Kick the methadone get your life back'
Bliss!
Nobu +
Kratom is a far superior NMDA agonist than Clonadine'
It looks like you have your head screwed on' but just no have the balls to kick yourself so you reflect your bravado off others' -
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Re: underground iboga in US
Sun, November 15, 2009 - 2:46 AMTo add'
Subutex has a half life of 72 hours' so it is going to take 3 days before you start to feel real sick' then the Subutex has to come out' that is another 3 days' then Ya receptors have to reset of which shall take another 3 weeks' 27-30 days all in'
So comments of you shall feel fine within a week hold no ground'
It shall take you a week before you really feel the withdrawal is of what you should have said'
Methadone has a half life of 24-36 hours' it takes 4 days to get blood clean off methadone' then another 21-24 days before Ya receptors reset'
Kratom is the way too go'
Bliss!
Nobu +
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Re: underground iboga in US
Thu, November 19, 2009 - 4:15 AMyes you seem to be quite the athoraty I just lowered my methadon 15 millagrams in 3 weeks almost efertlessly no sleep for a week but know pain , so many people suggest to switch to short acting opiates, but they tend to overdose or catch diseases or get arrested in the process ,It usualy isnt worth it and the first 4 days no short acting opiate will get you well unless your copping 3 grams a day of 98% .kratom ontains an opiate that is 31 times stronger than morphine ,so if you havea fuk load of money to blow for a month on H and demrol and then the 6000 large for Ibo treatment then that is most definatly the way to go, but not one ibogaine clinic in the world condones this as you are open to countless dangers of illicit drug use ,I m going in january to take iboga 3 times ,And I don't have to pay 300 dollars a day to do so for a month first ,granted if I ws gifted month sup. of dilaudid and a nurse to administer the dose I would go that route, methadone detox on ibogaine hci where they will give you Ibogaine upon request when ever the methadone starts to cause wd effects is painless compaired kicking a100 millagram methadone in jail, I also kicked H in jail and was fine in a week stayed clean for two years but I crushed my disk in my back and they kept me on morphine 400 mill aday for 3 years then cut me off and refferre me to the methadone clinic. long story short ,man up, you play you pay Ibogaine only stops 80% of withdrawels and If you have kicked dope in jail this is a fucking cake walk.. P.s subutex its highest legal dosage is only as strong as 40 millagrams of Adolphine-methadone ge real man. -
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Re: underground iboga in US
Thu, November 19, 2009 - 9:01 AMGood stuff' keep going'
Be Well!
Nobu +
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Re: underground iboga in US
Sat, November 21, 2009 - 8:05 AMyeah, you've come a long way silver. keep going, you'll make it!
blessings,
d.
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Re: underground iboga in US
Sun, November 22, 2009 - 8:19 PMThe Iboga House out of Costa Rica will be in Florida in mid December and in Canada in February. For a complete list of locations and dates please email me for more info. ibogahouse@gmail.com