Watch out for this Man

topic posted Wed, July 30, 2008 - 8:16 AM by  Sarita
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This is the man who pretends to be a shaman and has sex with all the women in the group (or tries to) but only after you have been with him for a while or straight away. Depends on what he feels like! He goes under the name of Aramando or Sayre Tupac Wiracocha

From what I have heard from a lady who has been to the retreat the people living at the retreat are good and pure but the ones travelling the world and holding ceremonies in other countries are the ones abusing the people and the plants.
This is their website.
www.sacredperuadventures.com
The retreats are done in Urubamba village. There is a pic of the pretender shaman on the website so please check it out so that you know who he is. I am sick of these men with their big egos and greed for money and sex thinking they can come and mess with peoples lives.
THEY WILL BE TAKEN DOWN!

I agree, it takes years of work on the ego etc before a person is ready to hold such a space or a deep spiritual transformation. You must be in control of your own mind and your intentions must be pure. The spiritual Fathers and Mothers can see this immediately in a person.

Yah blessings
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Sarita
SF Bay Area
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  • Re: Watch out for this Man

    Wed, July 30, 2008 - 11:49 AM
    I'm not sure I'd believe your source of information. Sounds like she's one of Christophers.

    Regardless, maybe, you should try Brasil. The UDV, and skip the daime/"gimmee" thing. Just my advice.
    • Re: Watch out for this Man

      Thu, July 31, 2008 - 11:39 AM
      Hello Everyone.

      Just to set the record straight...

      It happened to Me and I am sure I did not imagine it. These people are very dangerous. They will reprogramme your brain until you are there slave. Trust me it is not a pleasant experience.

      Just my advice.

      May Our Creator protect us from people like that!
  • Re: Watch out for this Man

    Wed, July 30, 2008 - 3:23 PM
    Sarita

    You have personal dealings with the man you mention' or did you just read about this or hear it from a friend'

    OXO

    Y

    X

    OXO

    Ez

    Love

    Nobunoni +

    Ok hearsay ! !

    Nice to see you get there add out'
    Any publicity is good for business' Yay
    • Re: Watch out for this Man

      Thu, July 31, 2008 - 7:40 AM
      Not hear say; as I said I wanted to get the people themselves to post their experiences.

      Very brave of you woman to stand up; I hope you can stand together.

      Sincerely!
  • to Sarita

    Wed, July 30, 2008 - 6:34 PM

    False healers, esp those that abuse people sexually, WILL BE TAKEN DOWN..........as women, we can use this forum of the internet, to warn each other about predators and hopefully, if even one person is helped, it is soo worth it. Thank you so much for posting this info.......
    • Re: to Sarita

      Wed, July 30, 2008 - 8:14 PM
      i agree

      if the above information is true and bears no ill malice to anybody due to personal issues (excluding the one mentioned above)then you should post it on all the enthogen forums
      • Re: to Sarita

        Thu, July 31, 2008 - 8:49 AM
        The problem is that there are people taking advantage and the people who have been hurt need to know they have support.
        Even my mother was asked to take her clothes of by an acupuncturist (which I have never experienced going for acupuncture) and the doctor also commented on how fit my mother looked.

        So wherever there is a position of power there is someone abusing it; especially when it comes down to your human rights being violated you need to know you have support and not 1. Blame yourself or 2. Think others are going to not believe you or support you.
  • Re: Watch out for this Man

    Thu, July 31, 2008 - 11:42 AM
    By the way what I mean with taking them down is literally TAKING THEM DOWN so that they stop misusing the people who come for healing and stop misusing women and stop misusing the plants that The Most High created for healing and spiritual growth.
    Yah blessing.
    • Re: Watch out for this Man

      Sat, August 2, 2008 - 2:50 PM
      This issue, while important, was discussed in length for many months in every cultural and shamanism oriented tribe last year. And many hundreds of people supported you. It would be nice for you to give links to the past discussions that went on in length - so that a whole perspective can be seen by everyone, Cause it seems like reposting in dozens of tribes is addressing another internal issue about the matter,
      rather than the one being presented. I am supportive of you, but revenge is a dish i do not like to take part in sampling. What he did is grounds enouph for the Terms of Use clause in tribe to be brought up, and have his advertisment spam to be removed. Light and good wishes for your healing.
      • Re: Watch out for this Man

        Sat, August 2, 2008 - 5:52 PM
        Dear !Tra,

        Protecting yourself and fighting for justice is very different from taking revenge. You see abusing a woman in any way and misusing the sacred plants are very very serious matters, and it is much more important for people who do these actions to be stopped. There are just ways of stopping people and that is what I support.

        Yah bless.
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    Re: Watch out for this Man

    Sun, December 14, 2008 - 4:46 PM
    the author of this article clearly thinks Sayre Tupac Wiracocha is a poser / putz

    check it out:

    undergrowth.org/jungle_fev...y_rak_razam
    • Re: Watch out for this Man

      Mon, December 15, 2008 - 12:58 PM
      For those who wish to skip to the meat:

      "One such sham-man is Sayre Tupac Wiracocha, a showman who claims to be a descendant from one of the last Inca families of Peru. This globetrotting spiritual salesman wears tight fitting brand label tank tops, designer jeans and has the clean-shaven, poster-boy looks of Antonio Banderas crossed with the relentless salesmanship of motivational speakers like Anthony Robbins. He is the Armani Shaman, and his workshops are filled with the beautiful and the cool in their matching sunglasses and latest season fashion, those who can afford US $100 a session for his hallucinogenic cactus-inspired wisdom.

      He comes on with the machismo of a self-help guru, forcing the crowd to their feet to do spiritual aerobics while he pummels their egos down like a drill sergeant in the army. Unfortunately, his massive ego still gets in the way of sharing enlightenment. He's the maestro, the awakened one - and you're either with him or against him. He'll enlighten you - his way - or you'll stay asleep, "one of the unplugged in the hamburger universe," he bellows at the shocked convention crowd.

      It's all quite ironic, as Tupac conducts his ritual circles from within his lush hotel room, and at one point sits everyone down and forces them to watch key scenes from the Matrix while tripping off their dials on San Pedro cactus. Wisdom of the Ancients, hey what? Dollar signs and bling bling, but where's the service, the spiritual connection?"


      Ouch! =)



      "Serious students have to give up their western ways and embrace a rigorous diet low in foods containing tyramine, a chemical which can react badly with the MAO inhibiting properties of the vine. No red meat, pork, sugar, salts, fat, caffeine, acidic foods, alcohol - or sex, all of which affect the body's sensitivity to ayahuasca. Tell that to a bunch of western thrillseekers looking for some jungle kicks."


      No sex? As in celibacy? Hmmm...
      • Re: Watch out for this Man

        Mon, December 15, 2008 - 2:09 PM
        BOINK !!!

        To add' we make of all of this for ourselves'

        Go figure the posters comments ~

        No substance I have partaken of has ever left me for pray' other than Salvia' and she was so short lived' I could have ran into the jungle' even whilst she was screaming at me'

        "WHY WHY' WHY HAVE YOU COME' WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT !!!

        :)))

        IF I DIED ON AYAHUASCA OR IBOGA' I COULD STILL GET UP AND RUN LIKE FUCK' PUCKING AND FALLING ALL OVERTHE PLACE'

        FIGHT OR FLIGHT'

        LIFE IS ABOUT CHOICES'

        UNLESS YOU ARE DEAD ! ! !

        OR BOMBED ON BARBITUATES' THEN TO ALL INTENT AND PURPOSE' YOU ARE DEAD'~

        NEVER OF THE VINE' + LIGHT PLANTS'

        This is all just bullshit'
        I am aloud my opinion' it holds weight of personal experience' an immence amount of experience wIth these substances'

        You obviously require of the healing' otherwise you would never have partook' of either'

        Scream all you like about my comments'

        RUN WOULD BE BETTER ! ! !


        Many Blessings

        Nobunoni +

        Darling if you got in over your head' you should have high tailed it to the hills ~ they would have found you and brought you home'

        Primal self to the fore'

        Darling' are you still hurting'
        If so'
        partake of another ceremony with another shaman and drop the attachment to memory ! ! !

        Men give' women recieve' you must of been reciprocating' or so fuckin scared you could no move'

        FEAR' Feelings exaggorated appearing real'

        Ok' I got my armour on' ready for the onslaught of righteious indignation' ~

        Bliss

        Nobunoni +

        What did you partake of'

        Rohipnol ~ ?
      • Re: Watch out for this Man

        Mon, December 15, 2008 - 2:33 PM
        Yep dimi, no sex. its really not so hard to do, when ones desire to learn from the REAL maestro (which, incidentally, is the San Pedro, and not the ''shaman''), you are already on a path that can put aside some intimate time. Maybe its something that developes with age, lol (25 years ago i would not have dreamed of not having sex everyday).

        ""Serious students have to give up their western ways and embrace a rigorous diet low in foods containing tyramine, a chemical which can react badly with the MAO inhibiting properties of the vine. No red meat, pork, sugar, salts, fat, caffeine, acidic foods, alcohol - or sex, all of which affect the body's sensitivity to ayahuasca."

        There is one huge substance that one weans oneself off of, for a dieta, is:

        stepping away from the world of electronics-tvs-radios-media input of any and all kinds-portable music-etc-etc. A sanctuary of the natural world, with only nature, universe and yourself, for the life changing effects that can accompany the Maestro. Ibo root also is highly benefitted by such practices of the 'dieta'. And sex- is viewed as an act chock full of potent universal energies generated by your own body- so you don't indulge them, so that they build, so that life essence is at its strongest - when meeting a Maestro. All the differing requirments of dieta all lead to retaining as much life force as possible.

        Iboga has its own sorts of "dieta" as well, things best avoided or not engaged in- for the root to transform life with a transition dose. Much of these actions also involve our "intent" faculties- our mental net patterning that is receptive to radical transformation- because we intend to be ground rich for the planting of new, useful and positive, neural patterns.

        anyway........
        • Re: Watch out for this Man

          Mon, December 15, 2008 - 2:41 PM
          life would be easier with a matrix implant, Nobunoni, hee hee. how many times is one of us writing while the other posts? a geometry of its own. most of the misunderstandings and such that surround talks like this thread, is because of a lack of fundamento. you get me a bit on this one? with fundamento, knowing and doubt are all swept away. it is not just a representation, it is your very funamento- the firm base on which the sacred trees grow, with their different rama's. we both access obscure ramas, you know.....

          :)
        • Re: Watch out for this Man

          Mon, December 15, 2008 - 4:17 PM
          Thanks for your thoughtful response Travis.

          I can do without sex no problem. The highest sexually ecstatic state I ever reached was entheogen-guided, and solo.

          I like sex like most people, but it doesn't rule my life, thank god. I was just curious as to why the author listed this as a nono. I can understand how this might apply to iboga, but I wouldn't say this about all entheogens ;-)
          • Re: Watch out for this Man

            Mon, December 15, 2008 - 4:35 PM
            you are welcome dimi3.

            'I can do without sex no problem. The highest sexually ecstatic state I ever reached was entheogen-guided, and solo. '

            i would say the same for my own experiences. and yeah, i would say this is not nessisary for all entheogens (like the dmt like molecule of Sally just kinda steps in either way, regardless of what preparations one may make. With root bark, myself personally, have no sexual reaction or urge what-so-ever, tho i have heard many have quite a reaction. intresting how our different chemistries make for unique experiences.
            :)
            • Re: Watch out for this Man

              Mon, December 15, 2008 - 11:21 PM
              Sacred wood gets the love flowing' is very good for intimacy' also shows of what needs changing in a relationship' so folks can get better aquainted'
              Sex before Iboga seems to no matter' as it does say for aya' the energies and the journey go off in a completely different direction'
              Intamacy after Iboga as of when oyu are up and running is awesome to the max'
              You get real lovey dovey' he he he blow your empathy circuits :)))
              A little tickle of Yohimbe and woooooooah you are off' giggling like a school girl'

              Spice walks straight over the top of Iboga' no matter of how much Iboga you ingest' you have to wait 3 days roughly' the same as attempting shrooms after Iboga' I know of folks that have partook of shroom earlier than this' but for myself' psychic overload becomes physicaly painful' so I learnt of my own chemistry for to get the smoothest journey'

              Keep Tracking the Love

              Bliss

              Nobunoni +

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