Caution of seretonin syndrome

topic posted Fri, May 8, 2009 - 5:03 AM by  Nobuoni +
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Caution of seretonin syndrome from ingestion of Ibogroot bark or Ibogaine hcl'
Iboga is a powerful SSRI and can become toxic in some patients'
Iboga is very long lasting' so great care must be exorcised before and after ingestion'

I would say a deffinite caution on taking any other tryptamine after Iboga'
RIMA'snd MAOI are out of the question for 4-6 weeks after ingestion of Iboga'

This is a personal obsevation over the past few years'

Be safe'

Be well

Nobuoni +
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  • Re: Caution of seretonin syndrome

    Tue, December 8, 2009 - 10:10 AM
    Hello, my name is Randy. I am in search of Ibogaine to consume for Chemical addiction as well as spiritual enlightenment. I have struggled for several years or so binging on disorientating substances. I have been sober for about two months now. I have to gain my self control or I will loose my family or maybe even my life. I feel like Ibogaine may help me stay sober. I love my family and life so much. Please if anyone knows where or how I can attain some Ibogaine please, I live in Michigan and am willing to travel. Thank you.
    • Re: Caution of seretonin syndrome

      Mon, January 4, 2010 - 8:12 PM
      Hi Randy,

      I am at an Iboga/Ibogaine clinic in Costa Rica watching them help people like yourself everyday.
      Please feel free to message me and we can talk further.

      Hang in there buddy.

      Julia
  • Re: Caution of seretonin syndrome

    Mon, December 14, 2009 - 2:53 AM
    Hi Nobuoni! I was given psilocybin musroom tea after my iboga treatment the first time, as a mood booster and for a bit of energy. This didn't seem to cause me any problems, and the actual chemical in mushrooms, is 5-HO-DMT (psilocin) and the phosphoric ester of psilocin (psilocybin), both tryptamines. I am sure the MAOIs could be harmful, but the tryptamines in the mushrooms seem to be okay, and I have friends who have smoked DMT soon after an iboga experience as well, with no unpleasant side effects.

    Respectfully,

    GD
    • Re: Caution of seretonin syndrome

      Mon, December 14, 2009 - 6:37 AM
      Depends on of how much Iboga One has ingested'

      If you take the shroo whilst the Ibogaine is still being converted to 12 hydroxy-ibogamine' you shall get pain'

      I also noticed an inability to break through on "Spice" too close to Iboga initiation'

      These experiences are after ingestion of large amounts of Iboga over a long period of time' no just someone eating 25 grams once every few years'
      (Ingested over 4 year period roughly 600 grams of initiation quality Iboga root bark' plus 7 grams Ibogaine HCL)

      My warning still stands' with' as of when you are hard-wired to Iboga' be careful of serotonin syndrome'
      Ibogaine acts initially as a mao inhibitor to dopamine and serotonin in the brain' the serotonin floods the motion sensors in the deep back brain' hence the experienced ataxia' as of when the Ibogaine has first passed it is converted in the liver to 12 hydroxy-ibogamine of which acts as a SRI' hence you keep boosting serotonin you are going to threshold' with pain!
      All my posts are of personal experience over many years'

      If you can guarantee that there is only psilocybin and psilocin in your shroom' or nn-dmt in your pipe' I see no initial problems' if the shroo has biotacycn in' then forget it' unless you like seretonin syndrome'

      Blessings and Light'

      Nobu +
      • Re: Caution of seretonin syndrome

        Mon, December 14, 2009 - 8:30 AM
        > I also noticed an inability to break through on "Spice" too close to Iboga initiation'

        Too much serotonin to compete with for the same receptors...
        • Re: Caution of seretonin syndrome

          Mon, December 14, 2009 - 4:55 PM
          Too much serotonin to compete with for the same receptors...

          My thoughts exactly' if you push it' you just get pain! Less is best' seeing as you are already expanded to the max'

          Be Safe

          Be Well!

          Nobu +
          • Re: Caution of seretonin syndrome

            Mon, December 14, 2009 - 5:35 PM
            Makes sense.. When i did the mushrooms, it was a very small dose compared to what I would normally use. It was just a very mild dose which gave me a bit of a boost in my mood and energy, but not enough to really trip like I would normally. I don't have a lot of experience, as I only did the iboga once, but a friend has smoked DMT not long after the iboga, and didn't seem to notice much of a difference. However, I am sure Nobuoni has more experience, so I am glad that you shared the explanation. Thanks a lot!

            Peace and Love,

            GD

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