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I have read different things about taking ibogaine to end a suboxone habit. Some say that you should switch from subs to a shorter acting opiate before taking iboga. Anyone have first hand experience with taking iboga while on suboxone? Second hand?
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Re: iboga and suboxone
Mon, November 9, 2009 - 9:40 AMWithdrawal on subutex is as long as methadone' 28 days plus'
Switch short acting for at least 3 weeks before Iboga therapy' then you shall no suffer' psychologicaly or physicaly'
A client on 8mg Subutex switched to 500mg of Morphine' 18 days out from the subutex he could still feel it crawling about through the morphine'
Partook of full initiation with Ibogaine' transitioned in 24 hours' felt a bit out of wack for 10 days' happy now :)))
took 29 days all in'
All the Best
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Re: iboga and suboxone
Mon, November 9, 2009 - 12:05 PMSo what if switching is not an option? Ideally I would like to switch, but it may not be possible.
Surely the iboga would at least make the withdrawals much milder. And shouldn't the transformative experience make it easier to deal with some mild discomfort? -
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Re: iboga and suboxone
Tue, November 10, 2009 - 3:45 AMDepends of how low you can get on the subbies'
If you can get down to 0.5-1mg a day then Iboga shall wipe most of it out' but you still got 28 days + before your own endorphine system comes online'
You shall be running on 12 hydroxy-ibogamine' unable to sleep' somewhat dopamine depleted and unable to stretch like a cat and get that endorphine rush'
If you attempt higher than that' then you shall be blank for five days' no withdrawal' then the sneaky shit pockes it's ugly head back'
You shall have no craving' but feel very tired wired until the Subutex comes out' (it is do-able' I jumped 80mg of methadone + heroin + valium + Gabapentin + anti-depressants + alcohol with Iboga' I tripped out for 4 weeks' the first week was ok' followed by 2 weeks plus of pure hell' if I had to do it again' I would' I was gone 11 weeks all in before I got some semblance of sanity ) :))) haha!!
You could jump it twice or more times with Iboga'
Take an initial good dose' then follow it with lots of little ones' + top up doses daily of equivilent 100mg alks a day' this would help greatly'
That would be 1.5-2 grams Iboga a day or 100mg Ibogaine hcl'
All the Best'
Nobu +
How BAD do you want it bro? -
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Re: iboga and suboxone
Tue, November 10, 2009 - 6:22 AMI want it very badly, and I'm in a good place to handle it right now. I am very confident that it will work out to the good.
Thank you so much for the information. -
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Re: iboga and suboxone
Tue, November 10, 2009 - 9:03 AMYou are welcome' I wish all the Best brother'
Blessings
Nobu + -
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Re: iboga and suboxone
Tue, November 10, 2009 - 10:53 AMSWIM was on 8-12 mg of Sub for 2 years and brother Nobu pointed out how kratom can be a much more effective substance to transition with rootbark from. Kratom worked fine for getting off Subs and nuw SWIM is just waiting for the right weekend to do the BIG work.
Thanks for that encouragement. Sub is out of the system for sure after 3 months totally clear. -
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Re: iboga and suboxone
Tue, November 10, 2009 - 12:07 PMCool stuff brother'
Be Well!
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Re: iboga and suboxone
Tue, November 10, 2009 - 3:48 PMYes I have been reading a bit lately about Kratom and it seems like a great viable option!!
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